Fr. McTeigue asks for a novena of reparation for the Anglican … thing… in Rome

Shout out to my buddy Fr. Robert McTeigue, SJ.  His media concern Stations of the Cross Media is having a fundraiser.  HERE

Fr. McTeigue was on a tear today about the Anglican CIRCUS in Rome in light of what was done to the English Martyrs and also about the ghastly sodomite BS about to happen at, appropriately, SODOM itself.   Doctor of the Church Peter Canisius is mentioned.   Oh, and there’s the Bishop of Fresno and the consecration of an pisky.

Here is the link to the YouTube of today’s broadcast – it is also a fundraiser, so… yeah… be advised.  HERE

I will add:

ANGLICANORUM COETIBUS!

Benedict XVI is the Pope of Christian Unity

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ASK FATHER: Is religious liberty in “Dignitatis humanae” the same as before the Vatican II? Of SSPX relevance. Wherein Fr. Z also makes an impassioned plea to Leo.

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

Could you explain how the definition of religious liberty in Dignatis Humanae is the same as how Popes defined it previously before the Second Vatican Council, I don’t quite understand how it can be said to be the same.

Mind you, I am not an expert on this question.   After reviewing to help me understand it, I think I can break it down.  It is important, because this difficult question is close to the heart of the resistance of the SSPX with the Vatican over the documents of Vatican II (not Vatican “eleven”), particularly concerning religious liberty.

The difficulty is real, and it should not be waved away.   Also, when there are true difficulties, we should have greater freedom, as John XXIII reminded:

In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus caritas.”

Please, God, let those in the SSPX and in the Holy See take this to heart.

Ad ramos.

If by “religious liberty” one means the proposition that man has a natural moral right to religious error as such, or that the State has no duty toward God and the true religion, then that is condemned by pre-Conciliar popes.

Bl. Pius IX condemned the view that the best civil society is one in which no distinction is made between the true religion and false religions, and he also condemned the claim that “liberty of conscience and of worship” is an unrestricted right to be proclaimed in every well-ordered society.

Leo XIII – who should be canonized – likewise rejected the theory that the State may treat all religions as though they had the same public title before God, since civil society must acknowledge God and cannot be “godless.”

There is a tension, which even careful traditional writers have acknowledged. Michael Davies, for example, (via Fr. Harrison) while remaining respectful toward the Holy See, wrote that he did not claim a contradiction existed, but that he did not see how the traditional teaching and Dignitatis humanae could be reconciled and asked the Magisterium to clarify the matter.  (We are still waiting.)

The key point is that Dignitatis humanae can be taken to define religious liberty in a deliberately restricted juridical sense.

It says: “Religious freedom… has to do with immunity from coercion in civil society,” and adds that it “leaves untouched traditional Catholic doctrine on the moral duty of men and societies toward the true religion and toward the one Church of Christ.” HERE

In other words, Vatican II did not define religious liberty as a moral right to error, nor as a denial of the social Kingship of Christ, nor as a denial that individuals and societies have duties toward the true religion. It defined the right in question as a civil immunity from coercion by merely human power within due limits.

That is why the Council grounds the right in the dignity of the person as a rational and free being who is morally obliged to seek the truth, adhere to it once known, and order his life according to it. This is decisive. The right is not founded on the subjective sincerity of the person, nor on the supposed equal truth of all religions. Dignitatis humanae says that the right “has its foundation not in the subjective disposition of the person, but in his very nature.”

Popes condemned a false “liberty of conscience” understood as indifferentism, religious relativism, social atheism, and the unrestricted public license of error. Vatican II affirmed a civil immunity from coercion in religious matters, within the limits of public order, while preserving the duty of all men and societies toward the true religion.

Those are related issues, but they are not identical.

Leo XIII supplies part of the distinction. In Libertas 30, he condemns false liberty, but he also says that if “liberty of conscience” means that a man may follow the will of God and obey His commands “free from every obstacle,” then “this indeed is true liberty,” the liberty loved by the Church, the Apostles, the apologists, and the martyrs. He also teaches that public authority may tolerate what is contrary to truth and justice for the sake of avoiding a greater evil or preserving a greater good, while never approving evil as such.

That does not yet amount to the full formulation of Dignitatis humanae, but it shows that the older teaching already distinguished moral approval from civil toleration or immunity.

John XXIII, before the Council, moved the discussion further in Pacem in terris. He taught that man has the right to worship God according to “the right dictates of his own conscience” and to profess religion both privately and publicly, while citing Leo XIII on true freedom. This is important because Pacem in terris stands between Leo XIII and Vatican II and uses the language of human dignity, conscience, and public religious profession without adopting religious indifferentism.

Dignitatis humanae also limits the right.

It says that religious freedom is exercised in society and is subject to the moral law, the rights of others, the common welfare, public peace, and public morality. The State may restrain abuses committed under the pretext of religion, but it must do so according to juridical norms conforming to the objective moral order. Thus the Council did not teach an absolute license. It taught a presumptive civil immunity, limited by just public order.

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith later explained the same. Its 2007 Doctrinal Note on Some Aspects of Evangelization rejects the idea that respect for religious freedom means religious indifferentism. It says that respect for religious freedom “must not in any way make us indifferent towards truth and goodness,” and that love impels Christians to proclaim saving truth. At the same time, it insists that evangelization must avoid coercion or improper persuasion and that witness to the truth does not impose by force. This is very close to the logic of Dignitatis humanae: truth must be proposed, preached, defended, and embraced, but the act of faith itself must be free.

Benedict XVI gave perhaps the most concise hermeneutical key. The CDF’s 2007 note cites him in his famous 2005 Christmas Curia Address to the effect that religious freedom cannot be understood as the “canonization of relativism.” Rather, it must be understood as an intrinsic consequence of the truth, because truth cannot be externally imposed, but must be personally adopted through conviction.

That is the Catholic distinction: truth binds the conscience, but coercion cannot produce faith.

Fr. Brian Harrison has defended the position that Dignitatis humanae can be read in doctrinal continuity with traditional Catholic teaching on Church and State. His work explicitly aims at “upholding the doctrinal continuity between the Vatican II Declaration on Religious Liberty, Dignitatis humanae, and traditional Catholic doctrine regarding Church, State, and religious toleration.”

Thomas Pink, from a more integralist and traditional political-theological perspective, argues that Dignitatis humanae changes the Church’s policy concerning the State’s use of coercion in religion, without denying the older doctrine that coercive religious authority belongs properly to the Church rather than to the State.

The answer, then, is this: Dignitatis humanae is “the same” as previous papal teaching only if one is speaking about the principle that no one may be forced into faith and that the civil power may not command the interior religious act. It is also in continuity with the older doctrine insofar as it preserves man’s duty to seek and embrace the true religion, and society’s duty toward Christ and the Church.

It is a development, however, in its juridical formulation of a civil right to immunity from coercion for persons and religious communities within due limits.

So we can’t say, “Vatican II says exactly what the earlier popes said.”

Vatican II did not repeat the older doctrine in the older political idiom. It narrowed the question to civil immunity from coercion, explicitly refused to deny the older doctrine concerning the duty of men and societies toward the true religion, and developed a juridical doctrine of religious freedom grounded in the dignity of the person and the free nature of the act of faith.

Whether every phrase of Dignitatis humanae is as clear as it could be is another matter.

But the orthodox reading depends on that distinction.

That said, Dignitatis humanae is a declaration of the Second Vatican Council, hence an act of the authentic magisterium.  But it did not define a dogma.

Paul VI explicitly said that Vatican II “avoided pronouncing in an extraordinary manner dogmas endowed with the note of infallibility,” while nevertheless giving its teaching the authority of the supreme ordinary magisterium, to be received according to the “mind of the Council” and the nature of each document.

The Council itself presents Dignitatis humanae as a limited doctrinal development concerning “immunity from coercion in civil society,” while adding that it “leaves untouched traditional Catholic doctrine on the moral duty of men and societies toward the true religion and toward the one Church of Christ.

That means the document’s binding force cannot be treated as though it had definitively settled every Church-State question previously addressed by Gregory XVI, Pius IX, Leo XIII, Pius XI, and Pius XII.

Canonically, non-definitive teachings call for “religiosum voluntatis et intellectus obsequium … religious submission of will and intellect” but not the assent of divine and Catholic faith.

The CDF’s Professio fidei commentary cites canon 752: “While the assent of faith is not required,” religious submission is owed to non-definitive authentic magisterial teaching.

Therefore, even on standard post-conciliar principles, Dignitatis humanae does not require the same irrevocable assent as defined dogma or doctrine proposed definitively by the ordinary and universal magisterium.

Moreover, the CDF’s Donum veritatis admits that, in prudential or historically conditioned interventions, “some Magisterial documents might not be free from all deficiencies,” because not every aspect or complexity of a question may have been considered.   This is certainly the case with Dignitatis humanae.

That does not authorize contempt or casual dissent.  It does leave room for serious, reverent difficulty, especially where a non-definitive text appears hard to reconcile with prior papal teaching.   Dignitatis humanae does at least leave that room.

This is precisely why traditional writers have treated Dignitatis humanae as debatable.

Michael Davies concluded cautiously that there remains an “apparent contradiction” between traditional papal teaching and Dignitatis humanae, while refusing to declare a formal contradiction.

Thus the strongest conclusion is: a Catholic may not simply sneer at Dignitatis humanae or ignore it.

However, because it is non-definitive, pastorally framed, historically conditioned, and difficult to harmonize with prior papal doctrine, it does not require unconditional interior consent from all Catholics in the way a dogma does. A Catholic may respectfully withhold full assent from disputed formulations while maintaining adherence to the prior magisterium and awaiting clarification from higher authority.

(Of course we have seen even quite recently blatant clown-car attempts to bury prior magisterium with the shovel of the “recent” magisterium”.)

So, that begs another question.

Has there been “clarification from higher authority”?

Yes, there has been clarification from higher authority, but not the kind that would satisfy everyone.

The post-Conciliar Magisterium has repeatedly clarified that Dignitatis humanae must be read as teaching religious freedom as immunity from coercion, not as moral indifferentism, relativism, or a “right to error.”

The strongest official clarification is the Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church, which says that religious freedom means that society and the State must neither force a person to act against conscience nor prevent him from acting according to conscience, but then adds explicitly: “Religious freedom is not a moral license to adhere to error, nor as an implicit right to error.”

Benedict XVI gave the key interpretive clarification in his 2005 address on the “hermeneutic of reform.” The CDF later quoted that address in its 2007 Doctrinal Note on Some Aspects of Evangelization: religious freedom cannot be understood as “a canonization of relativism”; rather, it is “an intrinsic consequence of the truth” because truth cannot be imposed externally but must be embraced through conviction.

The CDF also clarified that religious liberty does not abolish the missionary duty of the Church. In 2008, Benedict XVI told the CDF that Dignitatis humanae itself affirms that “this one true religion continues to exist in the Catholic and Apostolic Church,” and that interreligious dialogue does not dispense the Church from evangelization or from asking men to accept salvation in Christ. This is reinforced by Dominus Iesus, which rejects relativistic theories that treat religions as salvific paths in principle and reaffirms the unicity and universality of Christ and the Church.

There has also been an extensive 2019 treatment by the International Theological Commission, Religious Freedom for the Good of All. It directly acknowledges “difficulties in receiving the new orientation from Dignitatis humanae” and says the post-conciliar Magisterium has interpreted the declaration through “homogenous evolution” and Benedict’s “hermeneutic of reform.” That document explains the Council’s argument: religious liberty is founded on human dignity, the duty to seek truth, the nature of religion, and the limits of civil power in religious matters.

However, here is the important qualification: there has not been, so far as I have seen, a definitive doctrinal reconciliation showing precisely how Quanta cura, the Syllabus, Immortale Dei, Libertas, Quas primas, and Dignitatis humanae all cohere on the exact question of the civil status of false public worship in a Catholic State.

One might ask: Do they have to?   A lot of water has run under the bridge since those documents, also themselves somewhat isolated in their own contexts, were issued.  Where is there room for development?  Development, of course, rooted in the correct perennial principles about “development of doctrine”.

That said, higher authority has clarified the intended reading: no relativism, no right to error, no denial of the true religion, no denial of evangelization, and no coercion into faith.

What has not been fully clarified is the precise relation between the older “toleration of false cults” framework and the conciliar “civil right to religious freedom” framework.

So the fairest answer is: yes, Rome has clarified the official hermeneutic.  But, no, Rome has not produced the kind of exhaustive reconciliation that removes every serious difficulty.

This is getting way too long and it has absorbed a lot of time.

What of the SSPX?  Isn’t that the point of the question at the top?  Really?

The SSPX objects to Dignitatis humanae.  This is a sticking point which could result in tears.

The SSPX argument against Dignitatis humanae is that the declaration turns what earlier popes treated as prudential toleration of error into a natural civil right and that it teaches what previous documents (mentioned above) condemned.   Their fundamental objection – if I understand it correctly –  is that false religion, because it is false, cannot possess a natural right to public propagation.  Also, they say that that “within due limits” does not solve the problem, because the Council defines those limits mainly by “just public order,” rather than by the objective rights of Christ the King and the Catholic Church.

Thus, under the conciliar principle, a false religion may be publicly preached and organized unless it disturbs civil order.  If Christ has rights over societies, then civil authority may not treat all religions as having the same public status.

FINALLY, I think the SSPX could accept Dignitatis humanae as a non-definitive conciliar declaration whose binding sense is limited by its own text and by prior magisterium.

The key is its statement that it “leaves untouched traditional Catholic doctrine on the moral duty of men and societies toward the true religion and toward the one Church of Christ.”

On that basis, the SSPX could say: we do not accept any reading of Dignitatis humanae that denies Christ’s social Kingship, the objective rights of the Catholic Church, or the duty of civil society to acknowledge the true religion. We accept only the declaration’s narrower claim: that civil authority, as civil authority, must not coerce the interior act of faith, nor suppress religious activity by arbitrary force, provided public order, morality, and the common good are safeguarded.

Mind you, that would not require affirming a) a moral right to error, b) the equal public truth of all religions, or c) liberal indifferentism. It would allow the SSPX to read the text through Leo XIII’s distinction between true liberty and license, and through the traditional principle that coercion cannot produce faith.

Their assent could be qualified, namely, Dignitatis humanae is acceptable insofar as it teaches immunity from unjust coercion, while any interpretation contrary to prior doctrine is rejected.

Such a formula would make the document a matter of interpretive reservation, not an absolute obstacle to canonical union.

On that basis, those who are reasonable and grounded in charity in the Vatican would say,

“Hey, sure!  You’re right.  These are really hard issues and there’s a lot more to talk about.  Meanwhile, have a couple of bishops … on me. You pick though we’d like to discuss them.  You can even pick a consecrator of those bishops from a list you can help us draw up.  And afterward we’ll send theologians to debate you on this and other questions you have until we all get to the truth… together!”

Please, Leo, do that.  If you see this, please do that.  What a great legacy and work of statesmanship and pastoral care.

You do NOT have more important things to do.

It remains to be seen if there is anyone in the Holy See – even the Holy See – willing to be so open minded as to accept that, for the sake of what is constantly being touted as of great importance – unity.

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ROME 26/4– Day 36: Seeing red

In the Eternal City we had the rising of the sun at 6:08 and its setting at 20:08.

The Ave Maria cycle changed to 20:30.  For the Curia.

It does that.  But they don’t ring it.

It rings today at The Parish at 20:38.

Don’t forget the great Six Hour Clock app that has an Ave Maria Bell setting.  Honestly, it is a kick.  HERE

You all know about the Six Hour Clock and Rome, right?  Right?

Today in the Vetus Ordo we celebrated St. Paul of the Cross.   Tomorrow, since it is St. Peter Martyr, The World’s Best Sacristan™ had to swap out all the white for red which the priests left from the morning round.

In this shot you see red vestments which some of you readers donated to The Parish™.  What a pleasure to see them used.  I am so proud of how you rushed to help.  It is a joy to see them.

Mine (with my arms) is on the other side of the sacristy.  These are for visitors.

I made spaghetti “al seminario” yesterday.   So good with these ingredients.

I think these would look good in my apartment… if I had a decent place to put them.  I need a far brighter BOQ.

On Sunday I went to church a little early to do some surgery on my surplice.  The hook on these stupid clasps keep breaking, so… enough.  I replaced them with ribbons I can tie.

A little Latin for you today.  Go ahead and transcribe it in the combox and get at it.

White can mate in 4.

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ROME 26/4– Day 35: Theatre of the Absurd

Today the sun rose at 06:10 and it will set at 20:06.  But that’s in Rome, not in Columbia Heights.

The Ave Maria Bell is still in the 20:15 slot for the Curia.

It is the Feast of the great Jesuit St. Peter Canisius, Doctor.

What would St. Peter Canisius say about his Jesuit brethren today?   I mean by and large, not the few exceptions to the rule of corruptio optimi pessima.

On this note, I send you to Crisis to read a piece by Fr. Pericone inspired … provoked… by the absurd Jesuit Thomas Reese’s lamentations about the wrong kind of young person coming into the Church.   HERE

Pericone has a line that herks precisely to what seminarians who believed in God and weren’t sodomites had to do in seminary in the 1980’s:

Like skilled CIA agents trained in the art of subterfuge, these new seminarians listen respectfully to the bloodless drone of the Seminary grandees, then they repair to the enthralling pages of St. Thomas Aquinas, the arresting invitations of St. Francis de Sales, or the rousing exhortations of Blessed Pius IX, Pope Leo XIII, and St. Pius X. After attendance at the anemic seminary “liturgies” (or worse), they surreptitiously squeeze into their cars to search for the closest Traditional Mass.

Mutatis mutandis… it’s the same as it was back in the day.  I used to describe it as being in the officers school of the Enemy.

But here is something even more absurd than the increasingly irrelevant Reese.

It’s hard to formulate for this blog’s readership what I would like to say.

I just can’t…

It’s white’s move. Mate in 4. Do it.

NB: I’ll hold comments with solutions ’till the next day so there won’t be “spoilers” for others.

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ROME 26/4– Day 34: A good example

A little bit each day.

The sun appeared to be raised up at 06:11 and to be pushed down at 20:05.

The Ave Maria was to ring at 20:15, at least for the Roman Curia.

Along with being the 3rd Sunday after Easter in the Vetus Ordo, and the 4th Sunday of Easter in the Novus Ordo, it was also the Feast of Mary, Mother of Good Counsel and also the Feast of St. Cletus, Pope and Martyr, slain around A.D. 88.  His name is in the Roman Canon.

There’s a full Moon coming up on 1 May, Feast of St. Joseph the Worker and the beginning of the month especially dedicated to the Blessed Virgin.

Welcome Registrants:

MMMTTTOOOG
cesenamode

This is one of the reasons why The Parish™ is in such good shape and so many wonderful things are happening.  There is no job to small for the Pastor, which gives a good example to all.

Mouth watering goodies at the local.

Jasmine Report (…no, not the Jesuit).  Where there is lots of sun, the Jasmine has bloomed.  Shadier areas, not yet.  Nearby are large walls of the stuff, which is glorious especially in the evening as it cools.

To think… a year ago, I was posting about the upcoming conclave, including sonnets by the incomparable Belli, some read by The Great Roman™. Here’s a reminder…

Here is Belli’s sonnet about the death and funeral procession of Pope Leo XII.  If you are agile you’ll catch some of the frankly obscene puns (far less shocking than the prose of Tucho’s pornotheology) along the way which are not reflected in the English translation (not mine).   Read by, of course, The Great Roman™.

Er mortorio de Leone Duodescimosiconno The Funeral of Pope Leo XII
Jerzera er Papa morto c’è ppassato
propi’avanti, ar cantone de Pasquino.
Tritticanno la testa sur cuscino
pareva un angeletto appennicato.
Vienivano le tromme cor zordino,
poi li tammurri a tammurro scordato:
poi le mule cor letto a bbardacchino
e le chiave e ’r trerregno der papato.
Preti, frati, cannoni de strapazzo,
palafreggneri co le torce accese,
eppoi ste guardie nobbile der cazzo.
Cominciorno a intoccà ttutte le cchiese
appena uscito er morto da palazzo.
Che gran belle funzione a sto paese!
Last night the late great Pope went cruising by
Pasquino’s corner, right in front of us,
head nodding on a bed of fluffiness
just like an angel kipping on the sly;
and then the muted buglers came on down,
and drummers drumming with a muffled din,
and mules to haul the mighty baldaquin,
and then the papal keys and papal crown;
friars and priests, and next a clapped-out gun,
and grooms who held aloft their flaming tapers,
and then those bloody guardsmen on display.
The bells of all the churches tolled as one
the moment that the corpse went on its way…
This country has such entertaining capers!
26th November 1831

Belli might have purposely conflated the funeral of Leo XII (10 Feb 1829) and Pius VIII (30 Nov 1830).  It doesn’t really matter.

BTW… what’s that Pasquino bit all about in the second line?

Some of you who have been in Rome quite a lot, or had a really good guide, or who have followed this blog, may know about the “statue parlanti… talking statues”.

In days past, these statues scattered about the Centro were used by various groups to post written opinions on public matters.  The statues “talked” to each other.  The most famous is Pasquino, near the Piazza Navona.  The remarks Pasquino made were called “pasquinate”.   (There’s also a great restaurant just across from it called Cul du Sac.)

Pasquino – maybe named after a local witty tailor way back in the day in that neighborhood – is a rather battered Hellenistic-style statue maybe 3rd c. BC found in the 15th c. century. The subject of the statue might be Menelaus supporting the body of Patroclus, or some such Roman copy. In the early 16th c Cardinal Oliviero Carafa draped  it in a toga and decorated it with Latin epigrams on the occasion of the Feast of Saint Mark. That opened the box, as it were, and people started doing this with other statues. They formed a public salon, the “Congress of the Wits … Congresso degli Arguti”, with Pasquino along with Marphurius (Marforio), Abbot Luigi, Il Facchino, Madama Lucrezia, and Il Babbuino. These poems posted were collected and published annually as early as 1509 as the Carmina apposita Pasquino.

Here’s Pasquino.

Up that street on the left and you reach Piazza Navona.

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Your Sunday Sermon Notes – 3rd Sunday after Easter (N.O. 4th Sunday OF Easter)

Too many people today are without good, strong preaching, to the detriment of all. Share the good stuff.

Was there a GOOD point made in the sermon you heard at your Mass of obligation for this 3rd Sunday after Easter (N.O. 4th Sunday OF Easter)?

Tell us about attendance especially for the Traditional Latin Mass.

Any local changes or (hopefully good) news?

A taste of what I offered at 1 Peter 5 this week:

[…]

The Epistle from 1 Peter deepens the same mystery from another angle. Christians are addressed as “pároikoi kaì parepídemoi, advenae et peregrini …strangers and pilgrims,” “aliens and exiles.” You know the book, perhaps, by Michael O’Brien, in the Children of the Last Days series, Strangers and Sojourners. The phrase tells us where we stand in history and how we must live while we stand there. We belong here and we do not. We have work to do here, given by God Himself. Yet our final belonging is elsewhere, or rather above, in that patria where Christ has gone before us. This earthly life is charged with purpose precisely because it is provisional. The unfinished quality of our present existence, the sense that things remain unrealized, even the ache of incompletion, all of that belongs to Christian consciousness. We know there will be a recapitulation of all things in Christ, their submission to the Father, “that God may be all in all” (1 Cor 15:28). For that reason our time here is real and urgent, yet not terminal.

[…]

 

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ASK FATHER: If the Canon is inaudible, would it be invalid?

From a reader…

QUAERUNTUR:

An elderly priest always says the Canon in such a way that he is completely inaudible, he merely moves his lips. Do the rubrics require the Canon to be said audibly, if so, would his Mass be invalid?

The Canon is to be recited “secretly”.

In the 1962 Missale Romanum, “secretly” means secreto, not mentally, silently, or merely internally. The priest must actually pronounce the words, with lips and voice, so that he hears himself, while those around him do not hear him.

A rubric gives the principle explicitly:

Quae vero secreto dicenda sunt, ita pronuntiet, ut ipsemet se audiat, et a circumstantibus non audiatur. … Those things which are to be said secretly are to be pronounced in such a way that he himself hears himself, and that they are not heard by those standing around.

So the Roman Canon is “silent” only from the standpoint of the people. It is really a low vocal recitation, deliberately articulated. The priest is praying the Canon aloud enough for himself, not aloud enough for the congregation.

The rubric for the Canon itself says that after the Preface the priest begins the Canon “secreto dicens: Te igitur, saying secretly: Te igitur.” Even the words of consecration are pronounced carefully, not mentally: the Missal says the priest pronounces them distincte et attente, “distinctly and attentively,” over the Host, and attente et continuate, “attentively and continuously,” over the chalice.

The main “voices” the priest uses are these:

1. Vox clara, the clear voice.  This is audible to those nearby and, in Low Mass, is used for the parts the Missal lists as said clara voce, for example the beginning prayers, Introit, Kyrie, Gloria, collects, readings, Creed, Preface, Sanctus, etc. The Missal says these must be pronounced distinctly and fittingly, neither too fast nor too slowly, neither too loud nor too low.

2. Vox secreta, the secret or low voice. This is the voice used for the Canon and for many priestly prayers, including the Offertory prayers and other prayers marked secreto. It is audible to the celebrant himself, ordinarily inaudible to the people. In the Low Mass list, after the parts assigned to the clear voice, the Missal adds simply: Cetera dicuntur secreto, “The rest are said secretly.”   It is possible that a server or deacon close by will hear this level of voice.

3. The sung voice, in Missa cantata or Missa solemnis.  In sung Mass, the celebrant sings certain parts: Dominus vobiscum, the orations, the Preface dialogue and Preface, the introduction to the Pater noster, and other prescribed chants. The 1962 rubrics distinguish these sung parts from the parts said secretly.

In practical terms: at a 1962 Low Mass you hear the Preface and Sanctus, then the altar falls into the “silence” of the Canon. The priest is still speaking, but in the secreto voice. You may hear a murmur near the altar, especially in a small chapel, but the rubric does not intend the Canon to be proclaimed to the nave. The “secret” is therefore liturgical and acoustic, not psychological.

Back in the day, moral theologians agreed that it would be grave sin to recite the whole of the Canon, or just the words of consecration, aloud, that is in the clara or conveniens vox, rather than secrete, with the submissa vox.  The Council of Trent went so far as to say that if a priest didn’t use the submissa vox, then anathema sit and that act was “damnandum”.  

On the other hand, were the priest not to pronounce the words at all, physically, with breath and movement of the lips, etc., that too would be a grave sin, for he would be risking sacramental nullity, an invalid, ineffective consecration due to lack of proper form.    That said, it is possible that there is some “subvocalization” going on.  However, the priest risks invalidity by not saying the words, especially of the consecrations, physically, not merely mentally.

A bonus question, he also uses the pre-55, however only has permission for the 1962. I recall an FSSP priest mentioning that all pre-55 Masses said without e, explicit permission of the Bishop are illicit, is that indeed the case? Should I simply avoid his Mass?

There are no significant differences between the pre-55 and the 1962 editions except during Holy Week and in some matters of the calendar (e.g., some additional vigils, etc.), and the lack of the name of St. Joseph during the Canon.  It seems to me that using a pre-55 Missal for Mass is no big deal.

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ROME 26/4– Day 33: Here’s a little Latin for you

ROMAE SOL ORTUS EST HORA VI ET XIII. SOL OCCIDET POST PAUCA MINUTA HORA XX ET IV. CAMPANA “AVE MARIA” PRO CURIA ROMANA HORA XX ET XV SONARE DEBET, SED NON SONABIT. POTIUS, APUD ECCLESIAM SANCTISSIMAE TRINITATIS PEREGRINORUM ET CONVALESCENTIUM HORA XX ET XXIV SONABIT FELICITER.

FELICEM FESTUM SANCTI MARCI DIEMQUE OMONIMI FELICEM AMICO MEO MARCO CARISSIMO, QUI IBI IN MUNDO… ALICUBI, NESCIO.

HIS SCRIPTIS, NUNC POTIONEM E IUNIPERO DESTILLATAM HORA EST BIBENDI, NEMPE ANGLICE “GIN O’CLOCK”, QUOD LIBENTER PAULUM CONTUSUS CLEMENS XIV – BEATISSIMAE MEMORIAE – BENEDICTIONEM SUAM IMPERTIT.

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And this…

I wonder if someone could pull this off today?

And… too good not to share…

I spied that the Italian pasta maker Barilla put playlists on Spotify with songs to play for the length of cooking time for different kinds of pasta.

It’s a good idea, I’ll admit.  What I won’t admit is that buying Barilla pasta is a good idea if you have something better even if more expensive (try to get a lighter shade, indicating a different drying process and “bronze cut” which leaves a rougher surface for the sauce to interact with).  Here in Rome I will sometimes get Rummi, which you can get in the States.  Also, about the recommended cooking times.  I’ve never understood them.  They apparently think that pastasciutta (dried) should be rendered not with a resistence consistency “pasta al dente” but rather more like “pasta dentifricia” (toothpaste).

I had to have a bacon, lettuce and tomato sando today.  The bacon in the nearby grocery was remarkably tasty.  Next time, I’ll make it with pane di Lariano, always a treat.

For the first time in a while, I wandered over to the Piazza der Fico where a bunch of guys have for eons gathered to play chess.   Note the fig tree.  When the figs come in, and drop, its “splat… splat” everywhere, as if under fig-leaf boming.

This is a thin crowd moment.  Minutes can double the people, most of them having a considerable number of their teeth.

The games proceed with a clock, fairly fast format, clock move.  There is a great deal of discussion by everyone, others even reaching out to make the move or at least point.  Hey – you ought to see people on mobile phones with earbuds in conversation as they walk. I must say, the play was at a pretty high level.  I am recognized now, and they invited me to sit and play.  One guy, when he saw that I shot a photo of a monnezzaro sign on the wall where they play…

… pointed out that, even after centuries, this is where people dump their garbage.  As if to prove his point, at that moment, a rascal dropped a big sack of garbage right there.  The inscription is on the wall.  On the metal barrier we read… “IT IS FORBIDDEN TO LEAVE BAGS OF GARBAGE HERE”.

It just might happen that, in my book, a body might be found here.

I rambled a lot and I have great pics, but this will be too long.   HOARDS of tourists this weekend.  I heard a lot of German yesterday, but a lot of Russian today.

Here’s something different.  Usually the musicians punish the people sitting in the restaurants.   This time, these guys were seated, eating, and singing.  And they were good!  So, its a reversal: I’m passing by and they are in the restaurant.

I didn’t want to linger, but I assure you they were good.   And, it was at a bar in front of the Pantheon, the very place, where I convinced a young man from Texas to visit St. Paul and meet the great Msgr. Schuler to help him with his vocation.   He is now a pezzo grosso in the Archdiocese from which I, like Dante, am an exile.

Schuler’s anniversary of death was recent, 20 April.  Much missed.

I mentioned pane di Lariano … this is the bread at a favorite restaurant nearby… but…

Dante’s Divina Commedia is, among many other things, a long meditation on exile. The pilgrim descends through Hell, climbs Purgatory, and rises into Heaven during the sacred days around Easter in the year 1300. Along the way, the souls he meets ask about Florence, Italy, factions, corruption, justice, and the condition of the world he still inhabits, sort of like the interwebs. They tell him what awaits him.   The most piercing comes in Paradiso XVII from Cacciaguida degli Elisei, Dante’s own ancestor. He tells Dante:

“tal di Fiorenza partir ti convene … Thus must you depart from Florence.”

Then comes the famous passage in which the sorrow of exile is given the taste of bread and the labor of stairs (55–60):

Tu lascerai ogne cosa diletta
più caramente; e questo è quello strale
che l’arco de lo essilio pria saetta.

Tu proverai sì come sa di sale
lo pane altrui, e come è duro calle
lo scendere e’l salir per l’altrui scale.

“You shall leave everything most dearly loved; and this is the first arrow which the bow of exile shoots. You shall learn how salt is the taste of another’s bread, and how hard a road it is to go down and up another’s stairs.”

Outside Florence, outside Tuscany, the bread really was different. It had salt. Tuscan bread, pane sciocco, is famously unsalted even now: plain, porous, crusted, almost austere, made to receive oil, accompany strong flavors.  I don’t like it.  Also, your legs have muscle memory for stairs.

However, there is a whole world in that “stairs” and that “salt.” Dante will lose Florence, his household, his rank, his his streets, his own door and steps. He will depend on others. He will eat at another man’s table and climb another man’s stairs. Exile is daily humiliation.

Commentators rightly hear in lo pane altrui the bitterness of dependency. To the Florentine every the loaf would remind him that he was not at home.  The metaphysical and the domestic meet in one mouthful.   Nothing tastes as it should.

Alas, the Church today.  There are still savory niches.  But in most places, it is getting harder to recognize the taste of the bread.

 

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ROME 26/4– Day 32: What a day

In Rome the sun rose at 06:14.

It set quite a while ago at 20:03.

The Ave Maria Bells is still listed in the 20:15 cycle.

Welcome Regstrant:

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Among others, today was the Feast of Sts. Maria Cleope and Salome, disciples of the Lord.

It is also the Feast of Maria Elisabeth Hesselbald, foundress of the Brigidines, who are just up the street from me.

Here’s there little bell tower around sunset.

I had a fascinating day.

A taxi took me out of the Centro to an obviously affluent area of residential Rome where I met to consult with an expert on 18th century chess sets.   Yes, you read right.  I am doing some research for a book and progress is being made.  It was enlightening.   He had hundreds of complete sets from around the world, mostly antique, not much modern.

He had sets which fit precisely in the period I am looking at that would have been used in this region.  Not only, he had precious volumes, first editions etc., of the Modenese Masters and others.  I was pretty excited to be able to look at a 1st edition of Domenico Ponziani’s great work, at first published anonymously in the amazing year 1769.

Then I had an amazing taxi ride back to the Centro.  The driver gabbed on and on in great detail about how Benedict was forced to resign by pressure from outside and how Pres. Trump could help clear it up by releasing documents involving Hilary and Podesta, about how the munus and ministerium problem in the resignation speech made the resignation invalid, how Francis was an anti-Pope etc.  His knowledge of details was exact and fluid.  I suspect that he delivers it often, and probably to every single priest he conveys.  It was a tour-de-force.

Then Mass and then shopping for supper.

That was it, and a can of sardines with a piece of bread before I went to see the chess collectionist.   However, it was a new bottle of oil and, since I just finished the other one, what a difference.

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Black to move.  Don’t move until you see it.  Then you can’t unsee it.

NB: I’ll hold comments with solutions ’till the next day so there won’t be “spoilers” for others.

 

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ROME 26/4– Day 31: tired

Over Rome at 06:16 the sun emerged and it will remerge (?) submerge at 20:02.

The Ave Maria Bell ought to ring for the Curia at 20:15 (but it won’t).

It’s the feast of St. George and St. Adalbert.

I’m tired today.

Tomorrow I have an appointment with an expert on 18th century chess sets.  It’s part of my writing project while I’m here.

The leftover box from a favorite place.

Did I post this from Sunday?  There was a great choir from Switzerland.   Frenchy flappy dalmatic sleeves, but okay.

 

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