“Only what is true can ultimately be pastoral”.

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1. TheCavalierHatherly says:

   25 March 2023 at 9:47 AM

   ‘The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things. ‘ ‘The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”

   Cardinal Roche, like so many other prelates, follows the teachings of Humpty Dumpty.
2. PatS says:

   25 March 2023 at 10:33 AM

   The problem is they do not know what Pastoral really is.
   https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-vatican-agrees-with-radical-traditionalists/
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   “The theology of the Church has changed,” argued Roche. “Whereas before the priest represented, at a distance, all the people — they were channeled through this person who alone was celebrating the Mass.” Now, however, Roche stated that “it is not only the priest who celebrates the liturgy but also those who are baptized with him, and that is an enormous statement to make.”

   Roche is of course misstating the old theology. The priest celebrates the Mass not as a representative of all the people, but in persona Christi. All present at Mass assist him in doing so. All talk of distance is a silly slander.”
3. ThePapalCount says:

   25 March 2023 at 10:45 AM

   WOW. That is powerful. That is courage. Bishop Strickland has thrown down the gauntlet. In two sentences he publicly stands up to the eminent cardinal. Eye to eye. Powerful.
   I only pray that Bishop Strickland isn’t translated to a newly created see in the Amazon.
4. catholictrad says:

   25 March 2023 at 11:49 AM

   We bear no obedience to error. Pastoral shouldn’t equal error.
5. Ave Maria says:

   25 March 2023 at 1:46 PM

   God bless and keep that true Shepherd, Bishop Strickland!
6. rosaryarmy says:

   25 March 2023 at 2:10 PM

   I can’t seem to find the exact quote but I believe Mother Angelica once said something along the lines of “it’s not very pastoral to lead people to Hell.”
7. excalibur says:

   25 March 2023 at 5:20 PM

   I fear we are but a few steps behind the Church of Sweden.

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   In the Church of Sweden, under the leadership of Archbishop Martin Modéus, “you define what you believe in based on your own terms.” According to Modéus, the fact that the Church of Sweden receives a diversity of non-Christian beliefs “is an asset.”

   https://www.jihadwatch.org/2023/03/church-of-sweden-archbishop-screams-allahu-akbar-says-muhammad-is-prophet-successor-says-muslims-welcome-to-join

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