ROME 24/10– Day 0: He shall make all things new – and a POLL

ALERT: There’s an important poll in this post.

Breakfast in Brooklyn.

I have to have a poll about something relative to BAGELS.   See below.

I saw this at Ann Barnhardt’s place and it was too good not to share.

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I think that can count for “In churchy news… ”  It seems to me an allegory for the agenda of “walking together about walking togetherity”.

Speaking of which, check out what Raymond de Souza wrote at First Things about “The Infernal Synod”.  Sample:

[…]

Originally ridiculed by many as a “meeting about meetings,” it never managed to demonstrate that it wasn’t. Way back in November 2021, still flush with excitement over the synodal process—with meetings at the parish, diocesan, national, continental, and planetary level still beckoning enticingly—Cardinal Christophe Pierre, apostolic nuncio in the United States, said that if synodality was a “meeting about meetings,” it would be a “purgatory.” Indeed, the very “idea of having a meeting about meetings” would mean that “we would certainly be in one of the lower rings of hell in Dante’s Inferno!”

The Inferno is back in session this week. The late Fr. Richard John Neuhaus liked to joke that the first words heard upon entering hell would be, “Break down into small groups, discuss, and then report back to the plenary.”

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Today my priest friend and I went to see a newly un-wreckovated church where the altar was consecrated yesterday.  It is Notre Dame in New Hyde Park, NY. (TWELVE hours of confessions every week!)   The pastor there showed us around.  He did a fantastic job of the renovation.   The church had been deeply and stupidly uglified in 2000!   I thought all that nonsense was over by then.  But no!  There are 70’s ideologues around and they can still hurt us.

What it was before this un-wreckovation.

And now…  this photo is big.  Right click and open separately to get a sense of the sanctuary after un-wreckovation on part with the above.

The windows of the church are the mysteries of the Rosary, those of the Sorrowful Mysteries in the sanctuary with the Cross as the altar crucifix.  It was designed this way when built in the 1950’s.

New statues from Italy.

New marble work and Communion rail.

It can be done.

In chessy news…. HERE

3:16 isn’t just in John.


Another thing… talking with my priest friend from Brooklyn, he insists that bagels must be large, light and fluffy, a bit crisp on the outside. On the other hand, when I have been in other places in NYC, the bagels – good bagels – were a bit lower and chewier.

These are the wonderful, light fluffies we had this morning.  Butter knife for scale.

I ask you…

Proper Bagels should be...

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8 Comments

  1. In chessy news…

    Puer beat Levon, so he advances to play Magnus Carlsen in the Julius Baer Generation Cup 2024 Division I Grand Final. In Division II, Denis Lazavik defeated Jose Martinez and he will now play our guy Wesley So in the Grand Final. In Division III, Fabiano Caruana will face Vincent Keymer.

    White to move. I got mate in 4 in about 5 seconds.

    NB: I’ll hold comments with solutions ’till the next day so there won’t be “spoilers” for others.

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  2. Robert says:

    Notre Dame in New Hyde Park was my wife’s home parish. We pointedly decided NOT to get married there, given how hideous it was. We used to drive out of our way, when visiting her parents, to go to Mass elsewhere. As they moved, and my family fell apart, I have not been back since the renovations, but it looks far better. However, I imagine that there is still a fabulous bagel place around the corner, which always had among the best bagels I could find in the tristate area. They were not light, but they were also not small.

    On another note, it might be that the sin against the Holy Ghost is actually toasting a fresh bagel. Fresh bagels aren’t to be toasted, and day old ones can go either way, but by the third day they should be.

  3. Kathleen10 says:

    (AI answer to who invented bagels)
    “Some say bagels originated in the 13th century as a smaller version of the popular ring-shaped bread obwarzanek. Jewish bakers were allowed to bake bread for their Christian neighbors, but were not allowed to bake bread for themselves due to anti-Semitic laws. To get around the restrictions, Jewish bakers boiled the dough before baking it.”

    The fat, fluffy thing is a “roll”. The bagel is the scrumptious item with cream cheese on it.

  4. Kathleen10 says:

    How could I forget to say HAHAHAHA! That’s beautiful, I love the guy snickering, hilarious. I don’t believe in karma but if I did….that’s awesome.

  5. TheCavalierHatherly says:

    Dante is a far to straight forward author to use him as a standard of comparison for this synodical rendition of a mobius strip. The man we should be using is Franz Kafka.

    “Gregor Samsa awoke one morning to find he had been transormed into a gigantic failure.”

  6. maternalView says:

    I worked in a bagel shop while attending a midwest college before they were everywhere outside of New York. The machine that made the bagels was from Germany.

    Smaller, boiled, chewy. Fresh the first day you don’t need to toast much less put any thing on it. Straight out the bag. The next day – toast and fill it as you desire.

  7. JPCahill says:

    I voted for large and light. But that’s not quite right. That doesn’t really mean that that’s what they “should” be; it means that’s what I like. And, of course, large-and-light are (almost?) unobtainable here in the lower, left-hand corner of our poor,old U.S.A. There used to be a little bagel shop down on Fourth Street in Long Beach where you could get them, along with the rock-solid ones. Haven’t been there in years. Probably long gone, as are most things I’ve liked.

  8. Venerator Sti Lot says:

    Have I ever met a bagel I didn’t like (at least to some degree)? But I’ve gotten lazy about baking them – fun as it is (to try)!

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