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The Roman Station is Sts. John and Paul on the Caelian Hill. We hear again from Fulton Sheen’s On The Demonic. I will need several of these podcasts for what I want to hand along from this chapter. It occurs to in this section to think about how scientific advances have allowed us to see new things in the Shroud of Turin and in the Tilma of Guadalupe.























God speaks to us through astrology and alchemy? Did I misunderstand something here?
I heartily recommend Tucker Carlson’s interview of Jonathan Roumie, who plays Jesus in The Chosen.
~lgreen
What passes for modern astrology is something different than it was during the medieval period or even its various forms in antiquity. Astronomy is astrology without the meaning attached to it (unless you start digging and then you will find astronomers who ascribe meaning all over the place).
This is the core of what astrology is: The celestial bodies predictively move throughout the heavens. Does this movement have meaning? Does this movement impact us?
We start entering into superstition when we answer the questions wrong; when we philosophize wrong; when we think wrong; when we don’t have the Logos reigning over our thoughts. As Catholics, we do say that the movement of the stars have meaning, but we can only truly understand the meaning of things if we have the Mind of Christ. We are not atheists who say that there are no meanings in things and their movements; who do science as Saruman did science.
The height of the medieval understanding of the movement of heavenly bodies was the Music of the Spheres, which is tied in with the problem of universals, a problem that modern science is still obsessed with (this was Einstein’s whole focus in trying to find the universal equation), though no longer with Christ as the lodestar.
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Alchemy is interesting because it too comes in its superstitious form and non-superstitious form. The problem, though, again is superstition in thinking that these incantations, or these runes, will bring about change or give certain mystical properties to objects created. But whether we are looking at alchemy as a precursor to medicine, chemistry, metallurgy, it is about whether or not we have the Mind of Christ or if we are attempting to enlist the aid of demons and ascribing to them meaning and work that does not belong to them.
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I think that it is important to understand that what we know as the sciences is just their present form. In a few hundred years, they will be as removed from us as we are from the ancient forms and our descendants will look back on us and wonder why we understood the meaning of things so wrongly.