Rome 24/10 – Day 19: Review of the “Ave Maria Bell”

It was cloudy this morning so I didn’t see the rising of the sun at 07:25.  It is also cloudy this afternoon, which bodes not well for a sighting of the setting at 18:24.   The Ave Maria is ringing at Ss. Trinità at the solar time, rather than in the Roman Curia cycle of 18:45.

I was asked again about the Ave Maria Bell.  The question is “What is the Ave Maria Bell?”    I wrote about that in greater detail HERE.

In short, the Ave Maria Bells signals the end of the “religious” day and the beginning of “religious” night.  It is rung in the ball park of 30 minutes after sunset.  Usually the Ave Maria was rung in a way not dissimilar to how the Angelus is rung…  3x… 4x…5x… 1x.

If the Ave Maria rings at, say, 19:00h (7PM), then 18:00h (6PM) would be the 23rd hour of the day and 19:00 would be the 1st hour of the new day’s “evening and morning”.   In Roman churches, Vespers were usually sung about an hour before the Ave Maria Bell.  Hence, in the example above, at about 18:00 at the 23rd hour.

It’s all tied into a different way of calculating the hours of the day.  It also ties into the old Six Hour Clocks, you can still see around Rome.  The Six Hour Clock influenced the recitation of the Angelus at 06:00 – 12:00 – 18:00.

In the Roman Curia, Cardinals who were Prefects (the offices of the Congregations had/have throne rooms, btw) and other “pezzi grossi” around the place would receive visits for an hour after the Ave Maria. An hour after the Ave Maria was rung to signal the change of religious days, another bell was struck to denote the 1st hour of the new day.

The Ave Maria could follow the sun, and ring precisely one half hour after sunset.   So, following the sun strictly, the solar Ave Maria would ring at 18:54.   To simplify this for the Curia – ’cause who had watches, right? – they adopted 15 minute cycles.  We are in the 18:45 cycle now.  Actually we are in the 17:45 cycle, which lasts from 13-22 October.  BUT… there’s the “ora legale” here, the European “daylight savings” in force which moved the hour hand forward.   On Sunday 27 October “ora legale” is over and we will turn our clocks back to normal.  On that day we will be in the Curial Ave Maria cycle of 17:30 (22 Oct – 4 Nov).

Had enough yet about the Ave Maria Bell?   ‘Cause there is also a tie in with military practice of beating the “retreat” at the end of the day, in French “Retraite”, the day’s bookend to “Reveille”, for changing sentries and raising and lowering the colors.  On US Naval installations, for example, “colors” sounds at sunset.  This practice, while practical, originally flowed from the call to recite the Angelus, the Ave Maria, during the Crusades.

That said… today I sent out a “premium content” video to my Roman Donors to whom I am so grateful.

For them and for this day, thank you, Lord.

Self-explanatory.

Well… not quite.  In Rome there is a custom, especially among the young, to seek out maritozzi in the wee hours.  These sweet critters probably go back to ancient Rome. The name “martizzo” derives from the Latin word for “husband”. Men would bring these to prospective brides who would then call the giver “maritozzo”. The creative pastry conveyor might hide something inside, like a ring… just to break a tooth, I suppose. Or maybe to curry favor? No curry in these, however.

There’s always something more, right?

On the way to Mass before sunrise.

In churchy news… my text group has been musing about Mastro Titta.  Maybe its all the “walking together” that spurred this, I don’t know.

A bunch of damn fool women attempted “ordination” to the priesthood (perhaps it would have worked for Moloch’s clergy) on a boat – that again! – on the Tiber River which runs through Rome.

Get this from the France 24 site:

Dressed in a white robe with a rainbow stole, the 68-year-old Frenchwoman acknowledged her ordination was unauthorised by the Vatican, where a month-long summit on the future of the Church concludes next week.

No matter, said Rocher, who is transgender.

Transgender… so… wait… it was really a MAN being “ordained”?  With some women?

It just gets stranger.

In any event, there was only a woman pretending to be a bishop there, so nothing happened except something profoundly embarrassing.

And that boat on the river thing.   They think because they are on a river they are somehow outside of any ecclesiastically governed location.  Stupid.

Mastro Titta would have made a comment were he available.  Alas, he passed away in 1869.

This is sort of churchy, in that it shows something of the zeitgeist of the Left (also inside the Church):

The smaller one?  I’ll wager there were several times the number of people at the other rally.

And…

In chessy news…

(White to mate in 2)

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  1. NB: I’ll hold comments with solutions ’till the next day so there won’t be “spoilers” for others.

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    In an emotional statement, GM Christopher Yoo’s father Young-Kyu Yoo issued a heartfelt apology following his son’s expulsion from the 2024 U.S Chess Championship after striking a videographer.

    “Christopher offers no excuses for his behavior. He is just very sad and ashamed he behaved in that way,” the statement by Yoo’s father, published on uschess.org, reads. “If you saw him tearfully apologize to the Executive Director of the Club you’d understand he is genuinely remorseful.”

    The 17-year-old was charged with fourth-degree assault by the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department and taken into custody after he stormed out of the tournament hall and struck a female videographer from behind after his round-five loss against GM Fabiano Caruana. The minor was eventually released to the custody of his parents and his case will be handled by the juvenile justice system.

    Yoo was found guilty of “gross violations” of the event’s “Code of Conduct” and the “US Chess Safe Play Policy” and expelled from the event. US Chess has also announced that Yoo’s membership is suspended pending an investigation of the incident.

    In round 7 of the 2024 U.S. Chess Championships, 21 year old Awonder Liang is now 4/6 and .5 point behind Fabiano Caruana. Ray Robson beat the unlikeable Hans Niemann.

    This is fun.

    I really like the pieces they are using.

  2. amenamen says:

    … , Qxh2+
    Kxh2, Rh6#

  3. hwriggles4 says:

    The “meritozzo” reminds me of the Mexican sweet bread. The tradition of hiding something in the bread, like a ring for a man’s girlfriend, reminds me a little of the King’s cake that are popular at Mardi Gras.

    These last two sentences sound like a giveaway that I live in the southern United States.

  4. Saint Rocco the Trubador says:

    Wait!!… to left of the maritozzo…. are those… sfogliatella???

    Oh my!!!

    :-P”’

  5. Clinton says:

    But I have a question about those women simulating ordination (and the man simulating being a woman simulating ordination)! Where were their Ordination Tambourines?

  6. EAW says:

    @Clinton: The ribbons were still at the dry cleaner’s, so they had to make do without tambourines.

    @Father Z: Do you know when the ringing of the Ave Maria bell fell out of use?

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