When they say it is NOT about redistribution of power, it’s about redistribution of power.

LifeSite today looked at what the participants of “Walking Together about Walking Togetherity” are discussing and it fits with what I have written before. The true content of the “W-T” is the process itself. The aim is to make “W-T” a permanent institution. With what they are talking about now, it seems that the process aim at being permanent and all embracing, notwithstanding claims to the contrary.

Before anything else, there’s this bit.

My emphases, comments.

The Synod on Synodality was already extended from one year to two, and finally into a three-year process. But this 2023 session of the event has highlighted how the undercurrent of its themes and ideologies are set to be implemented as a new course of life for the Church.

Participants are asked to discuss what “structures can be developed to strengthen a missionary synodal Church,” and the work of the continental stage of the synod is also highlighted:

Continental Assemblies express a strong desire that the synodal way of proceeding, experienced in the current journey, should penetrate into the daily life of the Church at all levels, either by the renewal of existing structures—such as diocesan and Parish Pastoral Councils, Economic Affairs Councils, diocesan or eparchial Synods—or by the establishment of new ones. (Emphasis added. Worksheet B3.3)

Section B3.5 argues that the synod “is clearly demonstrating that the synodal process[Did you catch that catch-22 type loop?] is the most appropriate context for the integrated exercise of primacy, collegiality and synodality as inalienable elements of a Church in which each subject performs its particular function to the best of its ability and in synergy with others.”

So the Synod (“W-T”) clearly demonstrates that its process justifies its continued existence, continuous process.   It’s like a self-licking ice-cream cone.

More from the LifeSite piece, which at each step quotes the “W-T” worksheets, etc.

Note first, that LifeSite points to the claims of those running the “W-T” that while they are discussion how to change the way the church is governed and make concrete those changes, how to involve laity, women in particular, and “walking-togetherity” into all dimensions of the Church, they are nevertheless not intending,  de Card Hollerich:

“to question the authority of ordained ministers and pastors: as successors of the apostles, we pastors have a special mission in the Church.”

But he added that “we are pastors of men and women who have received baptism, who want to participate and be co-responsible in the mission of the Church.”

Contradictory?

I think that if they say it is not about questioning the authority of the ordained, it’s about questioning the authority of the ordained.

And there’s this.  I can’t make sense out of this at all form Hollerich.

“Where clericalism reigns, there is a Church that does not move, a Church without mission,” said Hollerich. Continuing, he argued:

Clericalism can affect the clergy and also the laity, when they claim to be in charge forever. Clericals only want to maintain the “status quo,” because only the “status quo” cements their power. Mission… impossible!

This is where I am puzzled.   I think we have to assume that “clericalism” is what we have had in the Church for all those benighted centuries up to Vatican II… nay, rather, even after!… going back to that magical halcyon period when there wasn’t any clericalism because, well, they were halcyon days of unclerical synodality like when Paul met women at the river during their non-liturgical ritual and they dialogued, etc.   So, basically, the Church has been hampered in “mission” for more than a millennium and hasn’t really gotten anything done in missionary terms because, see, clericalism makes mission impossible.  See what he did there?

Would he have us believe that there was no mission work going on till, well, perhaps now but surely into the future when we will all be “walking together”?

Today is the Feast of St. Isaac Jogues and St. Jean de Brébeuf, Jesuit clericalists from France.

Do not become confused and imagine that they did any mission work. They are from a time before Vatican II and looong after the halcyon days pristine “W-T”.

No no. Whatever Isaac, Jean and companions were doing in North America, it was not missionary, because without “W-T” that would be impossible.

However, the native peoples whom they disturbed with their clericalism were quite “synodal”. They talked things through together “synodally”, “walking-togetherly”. It was their way, unbesmirched. They made the “synodal” decision to deal with those clericalists.

St. Isaac was synodaled by the Mowhawks. He escaped, clericalist that he was, and then was later more completely synodaled by tomahawk.  His role was rethought.  St. Jean, who clerically learned Huron (but probably for the sake of dominance rather than actually “talking and walking together”) was synodaled in a non-liturgical ritual by a river in which he was tortured and the participants of local synod drank his blood and ate his heart. As one does.  Synodally.

Back to Rome and 2023 and “Walking Together about Walking Togetherity”.

To all the young men thinking about priesthood out there, consider this:

Seminary formation is mentioned, along with a call for training to be given so that future priests “develop a manner of exercising authority that is appropriate to a synodal Church.”

This in turn gives rise to the question of possible, unspecified lay ministry:

To what extent does the shortage of Priests in some regions provide an incentive to question the relationship between ordained Ministry, governance and the assumption of responsibilities in the Christian community?

Wanna see a shortage of priests?   Just watch what happens if any of this stuff goes through.

Gentlemen, and young priests out there!  If you think that Sr. Dyna on the staff of the seminary runs your life now… if you think that Susan of the Parish Council is a pain in neck now…. just wait.

I’ll wrap up with this.

Section B3.3 of the Instrumentum laboris calls on members to discuss how the laity might become more involved in regular governance and decision making in the Church: “how can we make listening to the People of God the ordinary and habitual way of conducting decision-making processes in the Church at all levels of its life?”

The worksheet also contains a call to alter canon law, thus “rebalancing the relationship between the principle of authority, which is strongly affirmed in the current legislation, and the principle of participation.”  [In other words redistribute authority in the Church such that the authority of the ordained is neutralized.]

It is interesting to note that in all of the Instrumentum laboris, the word “pope” appears only four times: thrice when referring directly to Pope Francis by name and once as part of a direct quotation from Evangelii Gaudium.

At all other times, the discussion of a new way of exercising authority refers simply to the “Bishop of Rome,” the title under which Pope Francis has preferred to be chiefly known by.  [This opens a can of worms, in my opinion.  First, Christ conferred an office on Peter: Vicar of Christ.  Eventually Peter got to Rome, having been elsewhere first (e.g., Antioch).  Peter was not, at first, “Bishop of Rome”, though he wound up in Rome and died in Rome.  The “papacy” is an institution that developed over time. Where am I going?  Not sure.  But there was a time when there was debate about whether the offices of Vicar of Christ and Bishop of Rome were separable.  Authors were divided, most of them on the side that they are inseparable.  That has not, as far as I know, been explicitly clarified, though it has been clear in practice. Even in practice, however, there have been tricky times, as when in 537, the Byzantine general Flavius Belisarius entered Rome and deposed Pope Silverius who had been elected the previous year. Belisarius brought in his own guy, Vigilius, and made him Bishop of Rome, Pope, while Silverius was still alive. So, who was the real Pope when both were alive.  It was commonly and calmly accepted, down to this day, that Vigilius was a legitimate Pope. He is in the official list.  The only reasonable explanation is that be became Pope on the death of his predecessor without any additional election or … whatever.  He had the chair and his being in that chair was accepted.  Sorry, that’s a digression.   What my alarm bell reminds me of is how in Malachi Martin’s Windswept House there was a plot to neutralize the papacy by changing the titles used to describe the Pope.  The Pope was to be known not as “Vicar of Christ”, but “Vicar of Peter”.] 

But, the document nevertheless presents a contradictory message. It highlights the calls for increased lay roles in ecclesial governance, yet also seeks to downplay this possibility. Section B3.3 states that “co-responsibility in the mission deriving from Baptism must take on concrete structural forms.”

Yet it adds that such “frameworks” should “not be read as a demand for a redistribution of power but as the need for the effective exercise of co-responsibility that flows from Baptism.”

Uh huh.

When they say it is NOT about redistribution of power, it’s about redistribution of power.

Am I wrong?

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Sometimes you’ve just had enough of the stupid

Yup. Nice tackle. Holding? Nah.

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I hope her whole community is like this.

Yup.

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Mala tempora currunt.

You remember the “Birettas for Seminarians” Project?   It’s dormant now, I think.  Dunno.

That said, this came in today from a concerned cleric.

Synodal [“Walking Together”] fuss brings to light the terrible problem of underdressed Vatican Monsignors. Please, let’s try to get them something decent to wear.

Find photos attached.

Asking for a blessing and greetings from Slovenia.

Yes, this is bad.   Protonotaries with ball caps.   Mala tempora currunt.

First, say a prayer for Father, as requested.

Next, say a prayer that I, the undersigned, be made a Monsignor so that I don’t just preach at these under-dressed, indecorous prelates from color-deficient clerical clothing. No, it would help if I were a Monsignor so that I could address them with kind fraternal authority.  Protonotary would be nice.  Thanks in advance.

Meanwhile, Reverend Gentlemen, for the love of all that is good, true and beautiful: have some dignity!

Decorum!

Mala tempora currunt.

Sed peiora parantur!

 

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Apart from the process itself during “Walking Together about Walking Togetherity” is something in particular being pushed?

The point of the “Walking Together about Walking Togetherity” is the process itself.  The process is the content, the message.

That does not mean that there are not sidelines, some of them dominant.

One of them is the normalization of homosexual ACTS, not relationships or identity.  Yes, those, too.  But principally (unnatural) sexual ACTS.   Libs demand that you deny what is obvious, so they obfuscate about this as about everything else.

Today, to my surprise – but not – Francis met with the pro-sodomy group New Ways Ministry and Sr. Jeannine Gramick. They met for 50 minutes.

That it happened now, during “W-T”, is not a coincidence

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ROME 23/10 – Day 18: little plates of little foods

Sunrise 07:23.  Sunset 18:27 Ave Maria 18:45

It is the 291st day of the year with 75 left to go.

This is the Feast of St Luke.

Welcome registrant:

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Out with friends last night who were heading home today.  A really nice supper, three couples and me as 7th wheel.

Fried anchovies.

A great, and old, Topolino.

Today I had lunch with two friends, one just in town for the day.  We opted for a little Chinese dumpling place.  Not bad.  Nice people.

Which drink is mine.

Which xiao long bao is mine?

Which… trick question.  I didn’t have one.

Time to take the boot from the freezer.  Yes, that’s frost.

Meanwhile, note the orientation of the board.  BLACK to play and mate….

… in FOUR.

NB: I’ll hold comments with solutions ’till the next day so there won’t be “spoilers” for others.

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EXPLICIT: Impose “synodality” (“walking togetherity”) and the other stuff will follow

This is from Catholic Vote.

Everyone, I’ve been saying all along that whatever “Walking Together about Walking Togetherity” might produce in terms of texts or recommendations for some papal document, none of that makes a difference. The real content is the process itself. The process, permanent revolution, is the content.

Get the structure and process of the permanent revolution firmly established and then all the other stuff – sodomitic blessings, ordination of women, etc. – will follow.

Take a look at this now from Catholic Vote.  My emphases and comments.

Panelists Sidestep Apostolic Tradition Question at Vatican Press Briefing

Two Synod participants sidestepped a question about the importance of apostolic tradition and divine revelation during Monday’s Vatican press briefing, choosing instead to emphasize “synodality” and “listening.

Fr. Vimal Tirimanna, a professor of moral theology from Sri Lanka, and Sr. Patricia Murray, IBVM, the executive secretary of the International Union of Superiors General, said in a press conference that divine revelation and apostolic tradition are present and taken into consideration when discussing issues facing the Church.

However, both Tirimanna and Murray added to their initial answers, saying that some issues—like the ordination of women or the blessing of same-sex couples—[NB] require a synodal mindset and lifestyle.

“Of course, different people have different issues,” Tirimanna said. [Watch this…] “I can assure you, once the firm foundation of the synod life is laid, those things [particular political or controversial issues] can be built up on that.

“In one sense, the most important thing is not[!!] to address whether women can be ordained, or that LGBTQ+ [individuals] should be accepted or gay marriage should be blessed,” he continued. “Not that they are not important, but[!!!] if we are serious about the universal church, a church that is worldwide, we have to lay a firm foundation that includes everybody’s interest. So first we lay the foundation—the foundation of a synodal way and listening culture. Automatically, these issues are bound to come sooner, if not later.”  [Did you get that?  First, get the process in place in a stable way, and all the other things will follow]

Sr. Murray also agreed that revelation and tradition make up the fundamental basis of discussion at the synod, but [!!] then added that it’s important to learn how to be “a synodal person.

“One of the key aspects of being a synodal person in a synodal church is to learn to have freedom,” [B as in B, S as in S.  “Freedom” for these people means “You are free to agree with me.”  And if you demure, then in the spirit of Rawls, you must be UnPersoned so that you are not an obstacle to consensus.  After all, once you eliminate the naysayers, you have consensus.] she said. “Yes, I have my own inclinations and things I would like to see happening, but if I really am truly training in the synodal process, I leave those aside. [… must adhere to GoodThink… no OldLife… no CrimeThought… only DuckSpeak… BlackWhite… BlackWhite… 2+2=5… time is greater than space… unity prevails over conflict… ] I pray for freedom; I pray for the grace to be truly open to what my brother and sister are sharing and saying; I pray to God’s Spirit to give me the enlightenment and insight into where we’re being drawn as a body, as this communion of people.”

“I know that’s a complicated answer,” she said. “You may say ‘you didn’t answer my question’ [A common occurrence at these pressers.] but I think unless we learn the importance of formation for this way of life, we’d be frustrated and we won’t understand what’s actually happening or what we’re being called to.”

At Synod press conferences, journalists from all over the political spectrum continue to ask about the role of the Catholic Magisterium in the Synod on Synodality, including synodal discussions of LGBTQ+ “inclusion” and the ordination of women.

The questions will continue to be about those things but none of the answers will be.

The true content of this thing going on is the process itself.

Permanent revolution.

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ROME 23/10 – Day 17: #freejimmylai

The sun rose in Rome at 07:22.  It is a truly beautiful October day, classic.  The sun will set at 18:28.  The Ave Maria bells in better times would ring forth at 18:45.

Welcome registrants:

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In your goodness please stop and say a prayer for a long-time reader and regular monthly donor Laura B who died of cancer in July ’23. She continued her husband’s donations after he passed away in Feb ’22. They were long-time readers before and donors since 2014. When I get news that some one has gone to God, I write it down and remember them in my prayers. It is the way.

It is the Feast of St. Margaret Mary in the Vetus.  In the Novus, Ignatius of Antioch (+107) is honored.  He died in the Colosseum “ad leones” and his remains were interred at what is now S. Clemente.   If you get to Rome and are unsure about places to visit, make sure San Clemente is on your list.

On my way to Mass this morning Venus was brilliant.

I stood here for a bit and asked Mary for additional apartment help.

Thank you donor who flagged contributions for flowers.   I have a little bunch of small carnations (colorful but not my favorites) but I got these today.  I don’t recall what they are called.   The look a little like mimosa, and come in three colors, these two bunches being the yellow and the red.  I thought they would go well by the mirror so that they look like more.

Last night I attended the Rome premier of The Hong Konger: Jimmy Lai’s Extraordinary Struggle for Freedom.

This is a film by the Acton Institute about the amazing Jimmy Lai, entrepreneur, Catholic convert, freedom fighter. Having made a fortune in textiles and clothing, Jimmy Lai started a pro-Western democracy and freedom of speech paper in Hong Kong.

With the take over by the PRC, Hong Kongers are losing their rights. Jimmy Lai, with Card. Zen and others, have been visible and audible in the fight for freedom in Hong Kong.

Lai could have left Hong Kong for anywhere and lived well for the rest of his life. Instead he chose to remain and now faces being imprisoned for the rest of his life.

You can watch the whole film. I warmly recommend that you watch it and share it with as many people as possible.

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Fr. Robert Sirico is in Rome right now for this and other events.  It was good to see him.  He’s a good friend.

Meanwhile, Fabiano Caruana defended his title at the 2023 U.S. Championship, clinching the tournament with a round to spare and a 1.5 lead over the field. My guy Wesley came in 3rd.

White to move. Mate in… one… two… THREE.

NB: I’ll hold comments with solutions ’till the next day so there won’t be “spoilers” for others.

Remember the wonderful summit Dominicans!

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Card. Pizzaballa: “I would offer myself in exchange for the children kidnapped by Hamas”

Something noteworthy that some might not see.

From ANSA

Pizzaballa, mi offrirei in cambio dei bimbi rapiti da Hamas:

Pizzaballa, I would offer myself in exchange for the children kidnapped by Hamas:

“Absolutely yes”.

Thus the Patriarch of Jerusalem, Cardinal Pierbattista Pizzaballa, responded on the possibility of a “probably hypothetical” proposal of an exchange of prisoners between him and children held hostage by Hamas in Gaza.

Thus Cardinal Pierbattista Pizzaballa, Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem, in an online meeting with a group of journalists responded to a question about whether he is ready to offer himself for an exchange to free the children hostages in the hands of Hamas. Regarding the Holy See’s offer of mediation, he further said, “we have given our availability at least to try to bring back the hostages, at least some of them, this is what we are trying to do. It is very difficult because for mediation you need to have interlocutors And right now we can’t talk to Hamas.”
Regarding fears about the consequences of Israel’s possible land invasion in the Gaza Strip, Card. Pizzaballa replied: “My fears are essentially two: the first is, following the ground operation, I don’t know what it’s called, the much more serious humanitarian crisis that will be created. This is the first fear, because undoubtedly there will be many victims.” “And the other fear – he added – is that this conflict will become a regional conflict, which includes not only Gaza or possibly the West Bank, but also Lebanon, then the Islamic world could ignite, all the Arab countries: I don’t know , it is very difficult to predict developments, but the fears of regional expansion are real, and I’m not the only one who says so.”

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1st World Problems or We Are In Serious Trouble

For the most part, I try to tune out of much of the “world news”.  I asked The Great Roman™ to tell me what is going on in Ukraine and in Israel/Gaza because I am rather disconnected … no TV, don’t read news sites, etc.   I also tune out various idiocies in circulation in wokedom.  The result is that when I do see something, I’m sort of like Rip Van Winkle waking up to find that reality isn’t reality any more… rather… even more than last time I looked in.

That said, I saw this.

The world is burning, and there’s this.

Remember when we started talking about “demonic gender ideology”?

If you are wondering, my pronoun is “Father”.

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In 2011 the World Council of Churches was pushing the demon Pachamama

I saw something interesting in an XTweet about the demon idol Pachamama and its being venerated in the Vatican Gardens and scandalously carried into St. Peter’s and an associated demon cult bowl being placed on the main altar.

The X Tweet indicated that there was a document from the ghastly World Council of Churches in 2011 which recommended the integration of cults of indigenous peoples.

Want to know more about the World Council of Churches?

US HERE – UK HERE

Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies for Undermining Freedom, Attacking Religion, and Promoting Terrorism by Ronald Rychlak and Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa.

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