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Tag Archives: PRO MULTIS
ASK FATHER: Does “for all” instead of “for many” make the Mass invalid? Should I receive Communion if I doubt validity?
From a reader… QUAERITUR: My schedule required me to attend a lunchtime Novus Ordo near my office today. The priest (I believe intentionally) modified the Eucharistic Prayer, employing the old “for all” translation of pro multis. As far as I … Read More
ASK FATHER: Priest says “for all” rather than “for many”
From a reader… QUAERITUR: Can a priest change the words”for many “ to “for all?” The priest said it’s optional. No. A priest may not by his own authority change the liturgical texts. That would be a liturgical abuse. The … Read More
Posted in Liturgy Science Theatre 3000
Tagged Precious Blood, PRO MULTIS, words of consecration
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Pope Francis: “Some will awake for eternal life, others for everlasting shame”
The liturgy wars are probably going to flare up again. Not long ago the Pope changed the way that liturgical translations are approved and then, in an informal manner, suggested a few interpretive principles, none of which he has codified. … Read More
Posted in Four Last Things, Francis, Liturgy Science Theatre 3000, PRO MULTIS, WDTPRS
Tagged liturgical translation, PRO MULTIS
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ASK FATHER: Priest says “for all” in consecration. Invalid?
From a reader… QUAERITUR: I just read an article from the Remnant which argued that the use of “for all” instead of “for many” did not invalidate the Mass. This article was written immediately after the release of the new translation of … Read More
Magister: Comments on the state of the Curia
Some time ago I issued a serious rant. HERE I think you should take it to heart. From Sandro Magister: A Firing, a Demolition: Behold the New Curia The reform of the Vatican curia that Pope Francis is carrying out … Read More
From the Archive: Priest refuses to use new translation in consecration of Precious Blood. Invalid?
FROM THE ARCHIVE. (Since a couple people have recently asked about this through email.) From a reader: If I had to guess, there are probably many priests throughout the US who are refusing to celebrate the Mass according to the … Read More
A noted theologian changes his mind about “pro multis” meaning “for all”
From Sandro Magister’s site Chiesa: Vatican Diary / The conversion of bishop-theologian Bruno Forte He was a determined supporter of “for all” in the words of the consecration. But the pope’s letter to the German bishops has changed his mind. … Read More
Posted in Fr. Z KUDOS, Liturgy Science Theatre 3000
Tagged Bruno Forte, for many, PRO MULTIS
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Waiting for Magyar – UPDATE!
In these five short years, vatican.va has already managed to post Summorum Pontificum in Latin and Hungarian! But wait! vatican.va still has nothing on the Holy Father’s Letter to German-speaking bishops about the translation of “pro multis“! Could we at least … Read More
Pope Benedict’s “pro multis” letter to German-speaking bishops now in English. Wherein an HONORED GUEST ranteth.
Here is a follow up to my post about the Holy Father’s letter of instruction to the German speaking bishops about the translation of “pro multis” in the new liturgical books. An English translation of the Holy Father’s letter is … Read More
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